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I would love to answer that for you Xentar pero if you noticed, I do not handle those issues in the Forum. Mostly on home networking stuff, PC and routers, and Forum rule implementation ang handle ko (not that we all talked about who handles who and who handles what but I think it came out naturally since kanya kanya kaming forte as mods). I let the other moderators take care of those things. I will ask one of them to PM you the info on these things na lang. I do not know din kasi if such info can be declared in a public forum like this. I know in confidentiality pwede, so I will leave this up with the other Moderators.Xentar wrote:
Your Welcome.
Mikhos any idea Ilang CIR para sa 3MBPS na Netstarter, 2MBPS NetStarter at 2MBPS Netvalue?
Salamat
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ok lang.
Nakaka inins lang talaga Mikhos na hindi na sulotionan ng Bayantel yong Problem ko sangayon grabe na Netko 600ms na, pero sa kanila normal parin daw, ayaw diin nila reroute yong liya ko dahil magastos daw.
ito ping ko ngayon. naka stand alone connection.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jack Stone>ping facebook.com -t
Pinging facebook.com [69.63.181.12] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 69.63.181.12: bytes=32 time=604ms TTL=242
Reply from 69.63.181.12: bytes=32 time=626ms TTL=242
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jack Stone>ping yahoo.com -t
Pinging yahoo.com [98.137.149.56] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=32 time=490ms TTL=54
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=32 time=480ms TTL=54
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Reply from 98.137.149.56:
Tapos sasabihin na labas na po yan sa amin kasi hindi na po yan Bayantel. Never in there mind ata na yong problem nila is nasa Network nila, International Connection By Bayantel.
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Ang kontrolado lang nila ay yung within their network. Once the problem as shown in the tracert is outside wala na talag silang magagawa dun. Xentar, I know what they mean when they say re routing is expensive. Ganito kasi yan, pag nag re route ka ng isang connection, there is a very big chance na matatamaan din ang ibang customers mo and problems will arise. Thus, unless it becomes a general problem for all, re routing a connection is not really resorted to as an option. I understand masakit sa ulo. Pero hindi lang Bayan ang gumagawa nito. Inherent practice ito sa mga ISPs kahit saan sa mundo. Re routing affects not just one but usually a group. And if the re routing to be done will affect more than just one customer then chances are ISPs are not inclined to resort to it unless there is a pressing need for it to be done like a big group of customers needing the rerouting. Please note that I am not saying na tama ito. I am merely pointing out possibilities. Di lang kasi tayo ang customers nila. They have others as well. I can only suggest na you keep reporting the problem to them. I know they are expanding in your area. That is also a possibility. Pwedeng affected kayo because of that.
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This includes requests for port resets, DSL connection footprints (ATT and SNRs), requests for technicians and repairs.
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Mikos wrote:Ang kontrolado lang nila ay yung within their network. Once the problem as shown in the tracert is outside wala na talag silang magagawa dun. Xentar, I know what they mean when they say re routing is expensive. Ganito kasi yan, pag nag re route ka ng isang connection, there is a very big chance na matatamaan din ang ibang customers mo and problems will arise. Thus, unless it becomes a general problem for all, re routing a connection is not really resorted to as an option. I understand masakit sa ulo. Pero hindi lang Bayan ang gumagawa nito. Inherent practice ito sa mga ISPs kahit saan sa mundo. Re routing affects not just one but usually a group. And if the re routing to be done will affect more than just one customer then chances are ISPs are not inclined to resort to it unless there is a pressing need for it to be done like a big group of customers needing the rerouting. Please note that I am not saying na tama ito. I am merely pointing out possibilities. Di lang kasi tayo ang customers nila. They have others as well. I can only suggest na you keep reporting the problem to them. I know they are expanding in your area. That is also a possibility. Pwedeng affected kayo because of that. Kung expanding yong area namin nasa may ipa sagot naman lang yon Business Center. any advice Mikhos. kung silang dalawa lang mayproblem, how about connect then Apply New Plan? kaso may Termination Fee. yan ang part nakaka inis rin ito ngayon yong Tracert ko. much worst than 56K dial up. Timawag ako ulit sa Bayantel Resend daw ulit ng Report, sana positive na ang result
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Eto yong Result Old Test  Eto yong bago, Iba na route ko problem now i belong to Conquested na Group Marami pang timeouts..... Boink  
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I Move my reply of other Topic
deko ma post yong Speedtest sa Quezon, sobrang bagal 30mins na ako nag hintay, tumawag ako sa Business Center, wala raw diyan ang Technincian or Incharge kasi Holiday daw.
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@Moderators
Wa po muna i Close yong Fault Ticket ko. dahil hindi na-ayos yong problema. i might request to increase the DSL Share Load on that IP Group kung pwede.
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No, Xentar. This thread will not be closed until you request it to be closed or as deemed appropriate by the moderators. For your question though, i will leave that up to the other Moderators to respond to (hindi ko kasi line yan... Hehehehe...).Xentar wrote:@Moderators
Wa po muna i Close yong Fault Ticket ko. dahil hindi na-ayos yong problema. i might request to increase the DSL Share Load on that IP Group kung pwede.
This thread is therefore marked to remain open until further notice from the Moderators or from the TS.
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@ Moderators.
Pa follow-up po ako sa Report Number 509015 same problem lang din. High Ping Rate, CIR Problem
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Xentar wrote:@ Moderators.
Pa follow-up po ako sa Report Number 509015 same problem lang din. High Ping Rate, CIR Problem "Client is requesting to transfer this IP routes that is the
same with Account Number 339580391. Meaning a change of package
from netstarter to a NetValue."
From our Network Group.
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Is it Possible to change without upgrading Package, Since netvalue is Not available in the New Package
If there is any Changes, why not but i have to Discontinue on Package. the 340830822 3mbps Netstarter.
What do i Need.
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Xentar wrote:Is it Possible to change without upgrading Package, Since netvalue is Not available in the New Package
If there is any Changes, why not but i have to Discontinue on Package. the 340830822 3mbps Netstarter.
What do i Need.
Request it thru email Sir, becoz based on your FT it was the solution provided by our NOC. Let us know their reply. 
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Actually i have no intention of Upgrading, If the Guarantee that the problem be fix permanently, I will do it.
So now I know that NetStarter has a problem on Routing. I hope they Open the Netvalue for me for this Purpose.
Another Question, If I change to Netvalue will my Ip Addres 121.97.118.XX be change, and i hope so it will
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Xentar wrote:Actually i have no intention of Upgrading, If the Guarantee that the problem be fix permanently, I will do it.
So now I know that NetStarter has a problem on Routing. I hope they Open the Netvalue for me for this Purpose.
Another Question, If I change to Netvalue will my Ip Addres 121.97.118.XX be change, and i hope so it will There is no guarantee that the problem will be fixed but based on your other accounts w/c is Net Value there is no problem in routing. The IP Address might be changed so there will be a downtime to your internet w/n 24hrs duration.
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1.) It is possible, to revert back my Package just in case the Suggested Solution wont Work?
2.) Netvalue is no longer Available in the Package List, it this scenario can it be open again only for a special request?
3.) Can You send Me the Letter from the NOC or DNOC they you have read, it would be a basis/merit for the Manager in Tacloban or here in Hilongos to Change May Package...
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UP
ok lang makita yong Email, For public use naman yan...
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Xentar wrote:1.) It is possible, to revert back my Package just in case the Suggested Solution wont Work?
2.) Netvalue is no longer Available in the Package List, it this scenario can it be open again only for a special request?
3.) Can You send Me the Letter from the NOC or DNOC they you have read, it would be a basis/merit for the Manager in Tacloban or here in Hilongos to Change May Package...
May Email Address is: *******************
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Hi Sir I think di na po ntin kelangan yun..Si Data Network na po kc ang nag suggest ng change package from Net Starter to NetValue for isolation purposes since yung isa nyong account na NetValue is walang routing prob. Just sent an email request to customersupport@bayan.com.ph for change of package and if they told you na wala ng NetValue just inform them that it was the suggestion of Bayan's Data NOC in your previous fault ticket.
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Hello.
Sadly they will not give me anymore NetValue, kasi close naraw yon, But I Suggested them Upgrade one of my Accounts to NetPremium 3mbps, hope that fix the Ping Problem and CIR. Then i have to Discontinue one of the Netstarter but i wont not pay for the Termination Fee. i hope it will positive by tomorrow.
Yes i have to talk to One of Sales In-charge in Tacloban, i hope you can make something positive for me to convince them for my plan.
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Positive Result today May Request Was Approve, My IP address will be change and IP Route, and I will have 15 days trial for my NetPremium...
and Hoping i"ll get Excellent Ping Rate and CIR.....
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Xentar wrote:Positive Result today May Request Was Approve, My IP address will be change and IP Route, and I will have 15 days trial for my NetPremium...
and Hoping i"ll get Excellent Ping Rate and CIR..... Good to hear that sir. Kindly give us your feedback anytime here in your thread.
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