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halfbloodprince
Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:54:49 AM
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madcat wrote:
-Still gnun parin ang issue, hay. Ginawa ko na taasan ang total ratio -> 1.398, tulad ng sabi ni @dnniwa, and i checked the availability w/c is good nmn 89.998 bt still issue exist na kpg 8am ng umaga up to 1.45am ang bgal ng download..any ideas on how to resolved ds issue? october pa kc ang tgal na, december na ngyn mg new year na..., naka afect ba ang typhoon ondoy? pero im sure my monitoring nmn kau bayandsl pra maayos ang mga affected areas sa baha db...??
-i also tested in other computer, nag install aq torrent apps, then nag dwnload aq ng good torent file, bka sakali gumana at bumilis ang dwnload transfer rate, but still usad pagong ang dwnload transfer rate.. 5kbps issue exist 8am-145am..,ginawa ko mgtest sa ibang pc para mg iba ang GUID ko, kc sabi nga nadedetect ka kung sino ang leecher o hindi, and fresh aq nag install ng torrent aps sa isang pc w/c hndi gingamit sa pgdwnload ng mga torrent.... linya q ba my problem.?.,modem ba? sa area ba dhil sa bagyong ondoy na lumipas.?.but ang ssbihin nmn nila kpg 2mwag aq sa cstomer support, wla nmn nakikitang prblem sa monitoring nila... --my bayad ba kung mgpa reinstall aq ng new wire connection sa byandsl?



Parehas tayo once nag 8am kahit SOD pa.. bump down na speed.. same observation natin...
Mikos
Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:38:44 PM

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halfbloodprince wrote:

9.) Network congestion daw sa area ko.. hay.. guys the router is in Bayantel office and not in the Cabinet.. the Cabinet has only the multiplexer.. the routers bandwith is in the central office.. so my area thing is useless...


Let me correct this... This is wrong...

Each OPAC or facility has a maximum number of subscribers. The facility has a max set of bandwidth supported by the E1 cable for a specific area. If the congestion happens at the Central Office, then all of us will have problems. But this is not the case. The CO simply manages the connections of BayanDSL. But if one area is congested with subscribers, then people in a specific area will have a difficult time accessing the web as compared to other people in areas where there is no congestion. It is still the remote IPDSLAMs that accommodate the connections coming from our house before that is forwarded to the CO.

DSL is a distance sensitive broadband technology. If we were to rely solely on the CO, people who are 12000 - 18000 feet of phone cable away from the CO will not even get decent speeds. To remedy this, remote DSLAMS or facilities are built near the subscribers so that the distance is shortened. Thus, to say that the congestion is in the CO is wrong. To say that the congestion is in the area is correct as each area is supplied a facility that manages all the connections in that specific area, and each facility in each area has a specific bandwidth capacity.

As the number of subscribers in one area grows, the bandwidth available thru the facility is depleted. Thus, the congestion happens at the area itself, not at the CO. And further, remote IPDSLAMs, being multiplexer themselves, can also route connections. Otherwise, some technicians will not even work at the cabinets if the routing is done at the CO. A technician once re-routed my connection and he never did that at the CO. He did at the cabinet or at the remote IPDSLAMs.

So in the end, your "area thing" is not useless sir. Congestion does happen at the area. Not at the CO.

What is found in the CO?

The telephone exchange and the DSLAM... DSLAM stands for Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer. This is where also the rest of the other remote DSLAMs connect. That is why it is possible that the CO is not congested but the remote IPDSLAM facility is.

The following articles may help you on how this technology works:

Extending Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) Services to Remote Digital Loop Carrier (DLC) Locations
Remote DSLAM

And by the way, I issued a directive in the past in this same thread that: Only Forumers which have the torrent solely as the problem can post here, meaning, there DSL is working fine, and it is only the torrent application that they are having problems with. In your case, since you were advised of a possible congestion problem in your area, it will run contrary to the development of the thread as congestion in one area can cause problems in other DSL applications. I would advise you start your own thread if you are experiencing other DSL related problems other than the torrent application issue.




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halfbloodprince
Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:58:51 PM
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mikos,

hope you are an ADSL Tech / Engineer even a Telco Tech.. because the link you provided say it all yet your idea is different from what it is saying..

The DSLAM or what we called DSL Access Multiplexer is located at the exchange.. this where the pair cable separate and terminate for voice and for data.. the voice goes to MDF while the date goes to DSLAM.. this is the device allow the higher frequency to be modulated for data... DSLAM is just in just simple lay man terms.. a Device that activate Higher Frequency.. its a Layer 1.. its just signaling.. now the downstream rate.. is the frequency equivalent being converted... its not the bandwitdh.. so if your Modem is Sync at a downstream rate of 1,500kbps this is the frequency that was establish between the modem and the DSLAM for data pipe.. not yet the Internet Bandwidth...

Now, some setup a what we called Remote DSLAM in some cabinet.. for a reason the 1.) the cabinet is on a fiber optic and not on the copper, and 2.) the distance from the exchange is farther....and likewise it mentions on the link.. its only for ADSL Line.. it has nothing to do with the Internet Bandwidth..

For all of you guys out there.. ADSL is just signaling not INTERNET.. its allow the Telephone line to have two frequency for the DATA and VOICE... ok..

Now where is the Internet comes in..

ADSL Modem --> DSLAM --> Goes to Telcos Backbone ATM Network --> Internet Gateway -> goes to the Internet

Between the modem and Internet gateway is what we called Access Concentrator / PPP Server / Radius Server this is one link allowing us to connect to the Internet Gateway...

The Internet Gateway first hope is the VPN Server of Bayantel, this VPN Server is connected to different EDGE and Core Router... going to the internet...

now where is the bandwidth internet modification / control comes in.. in the Radius Server is connected to the what we called provisioning system.. once Authenticated the QoS Rule of your account will apply..

for example if you are on 768kbps.. the Provisioning system will set your QoS to 768kbps... if you are on 1,200kbps the QoS system will set you to the specified plan... (its not on the DSLAM)... there are some companies who prefers
hardware control.. without using the QoS / Provisioning.. they will limit your internet speed by controlling your ADSL pipe downstream rate... there are some who open the pipe but not necessary means you will get all.. its still depend on the provisioning system ....

Now where is the congestion or so called sharing or contention happened?

In some provider.. the Radius / LNS (internet gateway) are differ on different accounts business residential.. so for example in some provider the gateway is the focal point of contention.. because they don't have yet the so called MPLS / IP network.. the gateway is then connected on a pipe with limited ... but now adays... the gateway are link on the Backbone of the provider which is linking at either 155mbps up to 1Gbps Network.. but then again its Internet Gateway where you will accomodate 10,000 PPP connections then this Gateway Router should be able to handle that request.. otherwise it will bag down..

The Internet Gateway Router is then connected to the network of EDGE and Core Router who has its connection going to IP Link Provider like Asianetcom, Tata Communication, Sprint, NTT etc...

Oh by the way, the E1 link of the DSLAM is not to link to the Internet is to link the DSLAM to the Backbone Network... the internet link is from the Gateway...

To get an idea Bayantel has 4 Access Concentrator (link to the IGR) (i think for QC, CAMANAVA only).. there is MAL there is PROJ8 there is VAL and there is RSV... this is where we do PPPoE Termination.. once terminated and connected

the Provisioning system will check your account for Speed configurations.. from here on you are now link to the net... of kors other areas has different concentrator.. PLDT does not use this anymore on most of their account since they are now on IP, which has DHCP Server (similar to a LAN)... the DHCP server provide IP address and Access Gateway to the net...

now Mikos, you may ask your fellow Bayantel NOC .. if they have the different kind of setup.. as to what I have mentioned.. then tell us how it work.. so we would know if they are not controlling the TORRENT...

I still get the speed no issue on that one.. but for torrent despite the a healthy seeder/leecher.. which is quite odd its has good speed during 4am to 8am on the same number of seeder/leecher?? hmmm...

Oh by the way, my ISSUE IS TORRENT... not CONGESTION.. its not me who is saying its congested.. how can it be congested when i can download normally except for torrent...










Mikos
Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:01:11 PM

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halfbloodprince wrote:
mikos,

hope you are an ADSL Tech / Engineer even a Telco Tech.. because the link you provided say it all yet your idea is different from what it is saying..

The DSLAM or what we called DSL Access Multiplexer is located at the exchange.. this where the pair cable separate and terminate for voice and for data.. the voice goes to MDF while the date goes to DSLAM.. this is the device allow the higher frequency to be modulated for data... DSLAM is just in just simple lay man terms.. a Device that activate Higher Frequency.. its a Layer 1.. its just signaling.. now the downstream rate.. is the frequency equivalent being converted... its not the bandwitdh.. so if your Modem is Sync at a downstream rate of 1,500kbps this is the frequency that was establish between the modem and the DSLAM for data pipe.. not yet the Internet Bandwidth...

Now, some setup a what we called Remote DSLAM in some cabinet.. for a reason the 1.) the cabinet is on a fiber optic and not on the copper, and 2.) the distance from the exchange is farther....and likewise it mentions on the link.. its only for ADSL Line.. it has nothing to do with the Internet Bandwidth..

For all of you guys out there.. ADSL is just signaling not INTERNET.. its allow the Telephone line to have two frequency for the DATA and VOICE... ok..

Now where is the Internet comes in..

ADSL Modem --> DSLAM --> Goes to Telcos Backbone ATM Network --> Internet Gateway -> goes to the Internet

Between the modem and Internet gateway is what we called Access Concentrator / PPP Server / Radius Server this is one link allowing us to connect to the Internet Gateway...

The Internet Gateway first hope is the VPN Server of Bayantel, this VPN Server is connected to different EDGE and Core Router... going to the internet...

now where is the bandwidth internet modification / control comes in.. in the Radius Server is connected to the what we called provisioning system.. once Authenticated the QoS Rule of your account will apply..

for example if you are on 768kbps.. the Provisioning system will set your QoS to 768kbps... if you are on 1,200kbps the QoS system will set you to the specified plan... (its not on the DSLAM)... there are some companies who prefers
hardware control.. without using the QoS / Provisioning.. they will limit your internet speed by controlling your ADSL pipe downstream rate... there are some who open the pipe but not necessary means you will get all.. its still depend on the provisioning system ....

Now where is the congestion or so called sharing or contention happened?

In some provider.. the Radius / LNS (internet gateway) are differ on different accounts business residential.. so for example in some provider the gateway is the focal point of contention.. because they don't have yet the so called MPLS / IP network.. the gateway is then connected on a pipe with limited ... but now adays... the gateway are link on the Backbone of the provider which is linking at either 155mbps up to 1Gbps Network.. but then again its Internet Gateway where you will accomodate 10,000 PPP connections then this Gateway Router should be able to handle that request.. otherwise it will bag down..

The Internet Gateway Router is then connected to the network of EDGE and Core Router who has its connection going to IP Link Provider like Asianetcom, Tata Communication, Sprint, NTT etc...

Oh by the way, the E1 link of the DSLAM is not to link to the Internet is to link the DSLAM to the Backbone Network... the internet link is from the Gateway...

To get an idea Bayantel has 4 Access Concentrator (link to the IGR) (i think for QC, CAMANAVA only).. there is MAL there is PROJ8 there is VAL and there is RSV... this is where we do PPPoE Termination.. once terminated and connected

the Provisioning system will check your account for Speed configurations.. from here on you are now link to the net... of kors other areas has different concentrator.. PLDT does not use this anymore on most of their account since they are now on IP, which has DHCP Server (similar to a LAN)... the DHCP server provide IP address and Access Gateway to the net...

now Mikos, you may ask your fellow Bayantel NOC .. if they have the different kind of setup.. as to what I have mentioned.. then tell us how it work.. so we would know if they are not controlling the TORRENT...

I still get the speed no issue on that one.. but for torrent despite the a healthy seeder/leecher.. which is quite odd its has good speed during 4am to 8am on the same number of seeder/leecher?? hmmm...

Oh by the way, my ISSUE IS TORRENT... not CONGESTION.. its not me who is saying its congested.. how can it be congested when i can download normally except for torrent...



Wow... Nice explanation... We appreciate it. But really it is not necessary. As I have stated before, if the congestion is in the CO, then we would all have the same problem. But then again, that is not the situation as not everyone has that problem.

My point was to illustrate that congestion happens at the area not at the CO, nothing more nothing less. I will not debate with you about technology as this is not the right venue. There is always a venue for that, and this thread is not. It was merely to answer a point. Nothing more nothing less.

As for the congestion part, you were advised by technical support that there is a possible congestion in your area. It would have been wise to check if at all that is happening. Hence, my response to you where the congestion is. IF I remember correctly, you stated that the congestion is at the CO. To which I retorted it is not, otherwise everybody will have the same problem. I may not have explained it properly in my post, thus I gave the links to better my point. The forum is not the only thing I am busy with and while I strive to do my best to make sure that explanations here are well written, sometimes that is not the case. We do have other things to do other than this. But we still appreciate the lengthy explanation, for whatever its worth, although it is not necessary.

As for the advise to start your thread, politely, you didn't state in your post that the congestion is not really a problem. You didn't state that you can download normally, except thru the torrrent application, in your earlier post. That only came up in your very lengthy explanation about DSL technology after I made a clarification. You merely stated that the congestion in your area is useless as the router is in the CO. That is different from saying: I don't have a congestion issue because I can download normally and surf without problems. Trust me, there is a big difference between the two. We, moderators, cannot and do not assume things. If the forumer didn't post it, we will not assume it.

And just to make it clear because is rather obvious you didn't follow the thread nor read it from start to finish (which is common among forumers in any given forum), it should be clear in the development of the thread and in my earlier posts, why I will not talk to the Bayan NOC. That is clearly not my function here in the Forum.

And finally, if there is throttling, then how come my friends who are into torrents, don't experience it. None of my former officemates, who are now Bayan subscribers and who are into torrents don't get to experience it either. Throttling? If so, how come it is just some who get to experience it. I have friends on other ISPs and those whose ISP throttle the torrent even come at my house to do their torrents via my WiFi router (whose ports are forwarded for the torrent application). All of them has one complain about that ISP and I will not name that here as that is contrary to the rules. At least that is consistent. So again, if throttling is being done, how come it doesn't happen to everyone? Still, at the end of the day, I will not say that you don't have a problem with torrents and based on what I know so far (and this is not an educated guess), the problem is not on Bayan's end.

It is easy to point our fingers at others. But let us remember, when we point a finger at someone, three more fingers are pointing back at us.




FLAMERS shall be severely sanctioned!!!
Please lang MATINONG TANONG LANG SANA ANG ITANONG instead of NONSENSE ONES.


The Forum is NOT an Online Technical Support.
For your DSL/Phone concerns please call the hot lines FIRST before posting it in the Forum.
This includes requests for port resets, DSL connection footprints (ATT and SNRs), requests for technicians and repairs.
Please read the Bayan Forum Rules.


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khupalkah
Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:37:40 PM

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clear explanation on topology... old star and new star model.... but still no issue on congestion or controlling on torrent rate... still it's beyond bayan control..

halfbloodprince
Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:12:23 PM
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please please read carefully..

my issue is not congestion... what is congestion is what being suggested by some that the reason why torrent is slow is because of congestion..thats the reason I bought the issue of its impossible to be congested otherwise the entire subsriber will be congested.. and not only that my download speed would also be slow.. but the my speed is not SLOW.. its the TORRENT is SLOW..

I never said there is congestion.. I never complain about congestion...

guss.. the reason I'm on this thread is because TORRENT SLOW ... being THROTTLED as WE SUSPECT

problem with you.. some who has no issue will be generalize as OK.. but MORE of US being throttled... as you can see in the POLL..

Now ISP may not throttled ALL .. otherwise they can easily suspected.. they may throttle most of .. but leave others like you and your friend and officemate.. so you can SAY WHY I'AM NOT EXPERIENCE IT

please please... just because you are not experience its does not mean nothing happens...

likewise we all said here.. how come from 8AM onward until 1AM the following morning we could not get the best speed.. but we can only during early morning ... SAME TORRENT FILE SAME SEEDERS..

and to add up.. why I can get it good speed in torrent using my 3G... gush.. if only not a prepaid I can wait for it download.. but 1 hour of 3G would cause 20 pesos..

again gain.. I'm ONE OF THOSE EXPERIENCE SLOW TORRENT DURING 8am to 12midnight.. whether SOD or not...

ok.. hope thats clears.. NO CONGESTION ISSUE.. TORRENT THROTTLING ISSUE..

okies... and I voice out here so bayantel would know that there are 27 subsriber experience it... buti sana kung isa or dalawa.. kahit sa ibang forum may nag sasabi din.. Buti nga kayo nakukuha nyo eh kami bakit nawala ang speed after October-November season? ha... its a coincidence that most of us experience that issue


Mikos
Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:19:33 PM

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halfbloodprince wrote:
please please read carefully..

my issue is not congestion... what is congestion is what being suggested by some that the reason why torrent is slow is because of congestion..thats the reason I bought the issue of its impossible to be congested otherwise the entire subsriber will be congested.. and not only that my download speed would also be slow.. but the my speed is not SLOW.. its the TORRENT is SLOW..

I never said there is congestion.. I never complain about congestion...

guss.. the reason I'm on this thread is because TORRENT SLOW ... being THROTTLED as WE SUSPECT

problem with you.. some who has no issue will be generalize as OK.. but MORE of US being throttled... as you can see in the POLL..

Now ISP may not throttled ALL .. otherwise they can easily suspected.. they may throttle most of .. but leave others like you and your friend and officemate.. so you can SAY WHY I'AM NOT EXPERIENCE IT

please please... just because you are not experience its does not mean nothing happens...

likewise we all said here.. how come from 8AM onward until 1AM the following morning we could not get the best speed.. but we can only during early morning ... SAME TORRENT FILE SAME SEEDERS..

and to add up.. why I can get it good speed in torrent using my 3G... gush.. if only not a prepaid I can wait for it download.. but 1 hour of 3G would cause 20 pesos..

again gain.. I'm ONE OF THOSE EXPERIENCE SLOW TORRENT DURING 8am to 12midnight.. whether SOD or not...

ok.. hope thats clears.. NO CONGESTION ISSUE.. TORRENT THROTTLING ISSUE..

okies... and I voice out here so bayantel would know that there are 27 subsriber experience it... buti sana kung isa or dalawa.. kahit sa ibang forum may nag sasabi din.. Buti nga kayo nakukuha nyo eh kami bakit nawala ang speed after October-November season? ha... its a coincidence that most of us experience that issue




Whoa!!! I really find your post amusing. Sorry but I am getting the impression that you do make very sweeping statements, unless I am wrong but that is how your posts are coming across. We all know that sweeping statements doesn't gather any moss.

Let me clarify a few things here, just to clear the smoke that you unnecessarily created:

Number One: READ... I stated in all my posts here what is similar to this: "I am not experiencing the problem, but THAT DOESN'T MEAN you don't have a problem."

Please do take note of this line from my previous post:


Mikos wrote:
Still, at the end of the day, I will not say that you don't have a problem with torrents and based on what I know so far (and this is not an educated guess), the problem is not on Bayan's end.


Am I making a general conclusion here that you don't have a problem? Am I saying that everything is OK? Am I saying that just because we are not experiencing it, it is OK and that you don't have a problem? I didn't say there is no problem. I never said that everything is OK and there is no problem with torrents. Did I? The statement alone is self explanatory. Nowhere did I say that there is no problem with torrents. I just stated that some people don't have the issue, and that based on what I know so far, the problem is NOT with Bayan. Another Moderator already made it clear his view about the problem, stating that it is beyond Bayan's control already. Did it state that there is no problem? Sir, with all your due respects, it seems you are the one who needs to read.

Number TWO: Bayan NOC doesn't even know my useraname here. They don't know who I am. Just for the record, it is only the Bayan Forum administrators and moderators who knows my real identity here (and a few fellow forumers that I have met), but they don't even know my account number and my friends. So again, if there is random throttling, then again, why am I not and my friends affected? Why are some forumers, like dnniwa and way_2_hot_a not affected? They are not even moderators here. So please, before making any sweeping statements get to know the person and the situation. But I don't say either that there is NO problem.

I will turn your attention to the following part of your post as this is the uncalled for part:


halfbloodprince wrote:
Now ISP may not throttled ALL .. otherwise they can easily suspected.. they may throttle most of .. but leave others like you and your friend and officemate.. so you can SAY WHY I'AM NOT EXPERIENCE IT



Your post would have been fine, I would have not called your attention if you had not stated it that way. A better way of saying would be like this:

"Now the ISP may not have throttled all their subscribers' connections, they may have throttled most.. But left some subscribers so that it will not appear there is throttling, and that not all get to experience it."

Compare that to what you have written. It only goes to show that you are not aware of how people will even react at what you are posting. Albeit, how you phrase it, showing an utter disregard for the people who will read it.

I am sorry if this is a bit straying from the point of the thread. Mr. HalfBloodPrince is making a sweeping statement that has to be addressed. This is a common mistake that most Forumers fine themselves in specially in the heat of an argument or discussion. It is easy to make sweeping statements, it is doubly hard to post something with sense.

While we are all here to discuss issues that affect us, we also have to be careful of what we place or how we phrase our posts and must anticipate how it comes across to those who read it. Sweeping statements to a certain extent cannot be tolerated, like the example that I just illustrated.

Mr. HalfBloodPrince, there is always a better way of expressing our opinions, and our voices. In this light, I advise you to be very careful when wording your post as some of them, like the one I quoted and illustrated here, to a certain extent are unbecoming and very uncalled for. Please be more careful next time.




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For your DSL/Phone concerns please call the hot lines FIRST before posting it in the Forum.
This includes requests for port resets, DSL connection footprints (ATT and SNRs), requests for technicians and repairs.
Please read the Bayan Forum Rules.


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dnniwa485
Posted: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:29:57 PM
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still running fine on my side...



torrents are all green.. :D :d/
bassman
Posted: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30:57 PM
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I hope this thread will not lead to any debate but to find solution for the subscribers who have issue on torrent speed.

May i ask the bayan mods and tech to help the subscribers by finding a solution to this issue.

Please help us.

Thank you.
madcat
Posted: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:02:01 PM
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@MIKOS
-u have said that "THE PROBLEM IS NOT ON BAYAN'S END",... so where and what are the caused of this issue-SLOW TORRENT?... my plano ba ayusin eto ng BAYANTEL?? alam mo nmn na lahat kmi hv the same prblem sa torrent OCTOBER(2009)-PRESENT(2010), Time:8AM-1:45AM..,, hndi nmn cguro coincidence na same kami lahat na gnito ang ngyayari,and 2lad nga ng sinabi mo hndi lahat nkaka experience gud for them... so please help us to solve this issue, and sa mga nkpg post ng mesage na hndi ksma sa thread ng torrent, naiicp lng nila ang mga iyon for posible reason kya bumabgal ang torrent, and at the same time my init ng ulo kya nsasabi nila.... u hv said also in the previous page of this post na "iritating ang torrent" dhil mtakaw kumain ng bndwth, ang qstion ko --my plan ba ayusin ng BAYANDSL eto even na gnun nga ang sinabi mo na iritating? ang sakin lng, 2lungan nmn pra malunasan ang problemang eto. hoping na maayos ang problem na eto. thnx.
rookieseat94
Posted: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:17:34 PM
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@madcat, AMEN. Ngayon lang ako nagpost dito pero ilang months na ring umiinit ang ulo ko dito sa bayantel. Mga 2:00 AM bumabalik sa 250+ kbps yung downloads ko. I'm paying 2699 per month pero ang nakukuha kong dl speed pag nag to-torrent ako maximum of 40 kbps. Asar naman diba. :|
rookieseat94
Posted: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:34:05 AM
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time check: 1:41 AM. Ayan bumabalik na yung BINABAYARAN KONG SPEED BUWAN-BUWAN.
So kailangan talaga magpuyat ako para magamit ko yung speed na dapat gamit ko 24/7?
nel_ross
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@rookieseat94
please also consider the seeding factor. If the donwload speeds amp up in the early morning, its probably because the seeders for the particular torrent become active only on their respective timezones. 2:00am is about early morning in the US and the other countries, where the majority of the seeders are.
it is important that you find a torrent file with good seeders to leechers ratio.
if kailangan mong magpuyat para tumaas yung dload speed mo, i'm afraid so.why don't you leave your pc on at night?
at my banwidth of 784kbps, i reach download speeds of 80kbps on uTorrent, which is quite good.
madcat
Posted: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:05:38 AM
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@nel_ross
-i tried it already the seeding factor. ang total ratio ko 1.469, and hv a good health torrent file and availability. And -mikos- hv said hndi lahat nkaka experience nito ng problem, so okay sa knila kahit anong oras regardless sa timezone.. and think of it also na hndi lahat ng tao ay my pera pra mgstay ang pc overnight lalo na sa mga desktop na malaki mgconsume ng kuryente, kailangan mgtipid pra sa kuryente, i knw hndi na related etong mesage regarding sa kuryente..


hope maayos na eto ng hndi na mag infinite loop sa complain.
rookieseat94
Posted: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:17:54 PM
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@nel_ross

i was using a private torrent site and mind you, i was dealing with 400+ SEEDERS and 35 leechers at that time. The seeding factor shouldn't be blamed here. :| And dati naman maski for example 1 is to 3 yung ratio nung seed-leech. umaabot parin atleast 100 yung download speed ko.
caseyboo
Posted: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:38:17 PM
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I've observed that most of us having this problem are from Quezon City. Maybe if all those affected can post and specify their location maybe we can at least conclude that its a location-based problem. And hopefully, we can start finding solution for this rather than whatever's happening to this thread. I have 2699/mo plan with slow torrent download from 6am-2am. Im located along Quezon Ave corner Banawe.
juncleofas
Posted: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:07:20 AM
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huwaw ang laki na ng inunlad nitong thread,

QC din me


tama si halfblood prince, bakit directdownloads ko nakaka full speed ako pero pag torrent sobra bagal kahit private at good health yung torrent? Applause
, lipat na kame sa "langit", wahahay

astig talaga dito, mod lang pwede magalit :d/
Mikos
Posted: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:35:51 AM

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juncleofas wrote:

astig talaga dito, mod lang pwede magalit :d/


Talaga? Baka naman me dahilan bakit nagagalit ang MODs minsan that some of us simply refuse to look at... We have to remember, we are in a Forum. We have rules to follow, and they have to be enforced.

Forumers can post their complains. We have been very lenient about this. If it reaches a point where it is not fit for the public or it becomes demeaning or derogatory, albeit malicious in intent, then we step in. People will have to understand that moderating comes with responsibilities. It is not by whim that we moderate topics nor is it arbitrary when we call the attention of people. There is always a better way of saying things and letting people know how we feel.

I am from QC... And I don't have issues with the torrent application. My neighbors don't either. I also have a former officemate and who is a forumer (although he is inactive here), who lives at the back of SM North. On Plan 899, he doesn't have problems with torrent either.

Again, before I get misconstrued (as a lot are fond of doing that), this doesn't mean there is no problem. I am simply stating an observation from where I am located and what I gather from other users that I personally interact with.




FLAMERS shall be severely sanctioned!!!
Please lang MATINONG TANONG LANG SANA ANG ITANONG instead of NONSENSE ONES.


The Forum is NOT an Online Technical Support.
For your DSL/Phone concerns please call the hot lines FIRST before posting it in the Forum.
This includes requests for port resets, DSL connection footprints (ATT and SNRs), requests for technicians and repairs.
Please read the Bayan Forum Rules.


If the post is in size 6 or big sized font, it means I am addressing you as a moderator. If the post is in the default size, it means I am Mikos the plain subscriber.


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juncleofas
Posted: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:43:33 PM
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spare me your bs, again, its not the application, the drop of speed started around the BER months, for 2 years na subscriber ako sainyo nung ber months of 2009 lang nagkaganun sa speeds at di lang isa nakaka experiece, really dissappointing

magsulat ka nalang ng libro about sa networking sa dami ng alam mo, wala napapala mga may problem dito, inintay ko lang matapos taon, nakahanap na ako ng bagong isp

sayonara bagaltel, maayos sana mga may problema sa torrents dito Applause
shuuky
Posted: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:44:16 PM

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ask ko lang kng my error sa port forwarding ano epekto nito sa torrent? kasi pag mag ttest ako ng port sa utorrent meron xa error.
ung sa port forwarding na...anu suluxon d2??
im using windows 7 ultimate 32bit. kahit sa vista ganun rin...


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