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juncleofas wrote:12:42pm = slow
ayoko ko na mag upload screenshot, nakakatamad.. ughh..
btw may friend ako na sky broadband (1mbps) 1k per month
umaabot speeds nya ng 175kbps and someone here tells that 4mbps will get the same result? kung sa tingin mo may problema sa torrent report @ techsupport.. based kasi dun sa account mo...
Customer : *************** 103559073 Account : ** No Name ** 103559081 Franchise: Type options, press Enter 2=Change/Create 5=Display 7=Display Network/Maintenance Fault Flt Sv Network Connect Discon Opt Code Cd Service # Fault# Fault# Ext No Date Date + DS 16-8202 7/07/07
11/08/09 14:10:00 - no connection === Ito un last report mo..CI#: 168202 madcat wrote: @khupalkah -sory for some words that are offending..
hay...sana maayos na ang prblem sa torrent.. you said before broadband e magka-iba sa DSL.. generic name si broadband what kind of broadband? same aspect magka-iba lang ng cable na ginagamit..
prangka lang ako dude wala pa-ikot ikot.. like big utol ng PBB..
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well it make sense naman na sinasabi nila... naramdaman ko kasi yan nun yung pagbagal exactly Oct. 7 2009 .. nakita ko kasi sa Connection LOG nang freeNAS ko .. bumagal nang 75% yung DL speed nun... sa peak download nya na 70kbps burstible na 150kbps... naging 20-30kbps ata nun ... Upload speed is fine..
too bad yung report ko dati nawala na.. pero as of now OK naman sya.. as i did override some settings on my freeNAS to peak up my download needs. Kahit sa uToorent OK na rin..
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i really don't know about you guys. there's a thing about researching that you seem to ignore. why don't you try to fix it yourself if others can't do it? are you guys downloading via public trackers? cause if that is so, their seeding time is diferent to us. we are in different timezones. kung 2:40am, tumaas ang download rate natin, its probably because someone from europe or wherever has just woken up from their sleep and fired up their pc. that's when they started seeding. whatever. i'm currently downloading a 6gb something. i started at 3pm and right now, 13.5% percent na ko. my dload speeds are somewhere between 60-85 kbps at uTorrent. hindi ako umabot ng 10 kbps because i downloaded a torrent from a private tracker. i'm expecting download speeds to increase as the night goes deeper. i hope this helps. stop being reactive and be proctive if you really need something.
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nel_ross wrote:i really don't know about you guys. there's a thing about researching that you seem to ignore. why don't you try to fix it yourself if others can't do it? are you guys downloading via public trackers? cause if that is so, their seeding time is diferent to us. we are in different timezones. kung 2:40am, tumaas ang download rate natin, its probably because someone from europe or wherever has just woken up from their sleep and fired up their pc. that's when they started seeding. whatever. i'm currently downloading a 6gb something. i started at 3pm and right now, 13.5% percent na ko. my dload speeds are somewhere between 60-85 kbps at uTorrent. hindi ako umabot ng 10 kbps because i downloaded a torrent from a private tracker. i'm expecting download speeds to increase as the night goes deeper. i hope this helps. stop being reactive and be proctive if you really need something. so are you saying na maximum of 15 kbp/s lang ang kayang ibigay sakin ng 2.6mbps connection ko during high torrent traffic? oh c'mon. even in the situation na sobrang daming seeders na sana man lang 50kbps+ yung mabigay eh hindi nangyayari. My normal download rate 3 months ago was 250+kbps. whetherpublic or private yung torrent.
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why don't you find out for yourself? look, i use a 784kbps connection. do i really have a more productive downloading given our (huge) bandwidth difference? right now, the download speeds haven't changed yet. try to think about any settings you have made during that three months.
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kung pwede lang sana ako magbahay-bahay para makita kung ano ang problema ng mga tao dito gagawin ko. Yun lang masyado itong costly sa time and resources.
Sa mga meron problem regarding torrent d/l, pwede po kaya na kuhanan nyo ng video ang inyong current setup? Mahirap din kasi gawin basehan ang mga screenshot so mas ok sana kung makita ng mga tao dito kung ano talaga ang actual na nangyayari.
for ex.
recorded video of the following (2 types sana, one is when the problem occurs and another 1 is when the torrent downloads are normal):
1. modem status 2. torrent download status 3. torrent application settings/preferences showing - connection tab - bandwidth - bitTorrent tab - advanced tab showing the part where there is "net.bind_ip"
Before you record anything. It is very important to cease all internet activity on your other computers if you have more than one in your household.
mahirap man gawin ang all of the above at naintindihan kong hassle ito pero IT would really help all of us to get a clearer picture of what is going on. Kung wala kasi talagang cap ang torrents, yun mga problemang na-encounter nyo is beyond bayandsl's control. what you guys need to show everyone is proof. Ang mga noypi kasi diba? "To see is to believe"
The thread has been draggin on for so long and evident naman na wala magagawa mga MODs dito to help you in this particular problem. One major reason why is they do not see any problem. Kung meron ebidensya na the problem really exists, I believe matutulungan kayo ng mga tao dito.
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Just an additional to what Xaero has suggested in case you guys decide to do it...
Make sure that you don't have any problems with your DSL connection (like intermittent connections, slow browse, and other DSL connection-related problems) and that it is the torrent SOLELY that you are having a problem.
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yep, kung nagbabasa ka nung post ko noon pa, sinabi ko na dito yan, una suspecha ko na dahil sa pagkadown ng connection namin, then nung inayos tinest ko naman, OK naman siya yun nga lang parang na timing sa pagbagal ng torrents,
pero mukang hindi naman dahil sa mga nababasa ko dito at sa ibang forums, try reading at pinoydsl ang dami namin kaparehas ang kaso
Browsing Speed ko OK Direct Download Speed OK sa TORRENT lang talaga Not OK eh which very is fishy, kahit naka private tracker at super good health pa
kung ireport ko naman, ano mapapala ko kung napakadami na ganto na eexperience? maayos kaya nila? no thanks nalang, matagal ko na rin naman balak lumipat, ang tagal ko na nagpost dito still wala pa rin nangyayari
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natatawa naman ako sa respond ng isang MOD, mod ba yun na need pa account number or show proof.. grabe mod ba yun..
alam nyo sa experience ko, ang maraming sat sat isa lang ibig sabihin.. walang magagawa .. kung ano ano pang paikot.. since hindi raw ito sumbungan ng bayan.. eh di sana wag na lang sila mag comment sa mga clamours ng mga subscriber...
ang hirap sa kanila bilang Mod kung wala silang capacity to talk to Bayan NOC or help at least.. then let us alone to express our sentiments.. and problema.. mag dakdak pa..
let me quote the news about simon cowell quiting the American Idol... When he was asked who Fox should seek as his replacement, Cowell replied: "Just get somebody who knows what they're talking about."
I think Bayantel Peeps should get a MOD that knows what they're talking about... one of the essence of customer service is LISTEN.. you do not barge in to what customer is saying.. do probe.. don't dismiss the issue just because so called WALA naman...
*p.s. kung wala rin masabi.. don't make accusation na iisa lang kami ni juncleofas..it just goes to show what kind of person you are... going to that level ... hayys...
OT: I find it weird when Tunde (ended his office Oct 31) was replace by Fred (November 1)... dumating ang issues hehehehe just my thinking..
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nel_ross wrote:i really don't know about you guys. there's a thing about researching that you seem to ignore. why don't you try to fix it yourself if others can't do it? are you guys downloading via public trackers? cause if that is so, their seeding time is diferent to us. we are in different timezones. kung 2:40am, tumaas ang download rate natin, its probably because someone from europe or wherever has just woken up from their sleep and fired up their pc. that's when they started seeding. whatever. i'm currently downloading a 6gb something. i started at 3pm and right now, 13.5% percent na ko. my dload speeds are somewhere between 60-85 kbps at uTorrent. hindi ako umabot ng 10 kbps because i downloaded a torrent from a private tracker. i'm expecting download speeds to increase as the night goes deeper. i hope this helps. stop being reactive and be proctive if you really need something. some tried no go... and why do you need to fix it.. when there is nothing wrong in the first place.. nangyari lang around 0ctober-November season..and why the torrent speed is faster during early morning (4am to 8am)... same seeders and same torrent.. (tagal kasi matapos).... kaso di naman matatapos in 4 hours window frame.. kung buti 10-20 hours.... I check my peers, and they are from different continental ... europe, north america, south america, and ASIA...
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hindi kami customer service dito FYI...
it sound like turo ka ng turo baka manunu ka sa kaka-blame na si bayan ay may problema... also wag mong itaas ang sariling mong silya para sabihin na magaling ka... requesting for bayan NOC?.. for what... para bigyan ka ng diagram not needed.. clearly stated it's beyond bayan control. no need further explanation how DSL LAN is working...
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halfbloodprince wrote: some tried no go... and why do you need to fix it.. when there is nothing wrong in the first place.. nangyari lang around 0ctober-November season..and why the torrent speed is faster during early morning (4am to 8am)... same seeders and same torrent.. (tagal kasi matapos)....
kaso di naman matatapos in 4 hours window frame.. kung buti 10-20 hours.... I check my peers, and they are from different continental ... europe, north america, south america, and ASIA...
Settings are not permanent... They change over time as the world wide web also changes. Even DNNIWA pointed that out. He made changes with his settings and it did resolve his torrent issues. IT people regularly check their settings. How is that different from a home set up? Not at all different.
Now for the other part..
I have been very polite with you all this time but it seems you really are here to flame. If you cannot follow the rules then you might as well get out of the Forum. Consider this reply as your last warning.:halfbloodprince wrote:natatawa naman ako sa respond ng isang MOD, mod ba yun na need pa account number or show proof.. grabe mod ba yun..
First, this retort is very uncalled for. Nasa rules that if you have DSL related concern like torrent apps, post the account number. So MOD nga ba siya. The answer is YES. Unfortunately, I cannot say you are mature. Kasi simpleng rule, hindi mo alam sumunod.
halfbloodprince wrote: alam nyo sa experience ko, ang maraming sat sat isa lang ibig sabihin.. walang magagawa .. kung ano ano pang paikot.. since hindi raw ito sumbungan ng bayan.. eh di sana wag na lang sila mag comment sa mga clamours ng mga subscriber...
Hindi talaga sumbungan ng Bayan ito. This is a Forum. And this is a community.
With all your due respects, ARE YOU A MODERATOR HERE for you to tell us not to comment on the posts of our fellow subscribers? Please know your place in the Forum. There is a limit to everything.halfbloodprince wrote: ang hirap sa kanila bilang Mod kung wala silang capacity to talk to Bayan NOC or help at least.. then let us alone to express our sentiments.. and problema.. mag dakdak pa..
Mod Khupalkah will not post that if he has not spoken to the people from BayanDSL. We moderators don't post anything here unless we know what we are talking about. And furthermore, do you know all the moderators in the Forum for you to make that remark? I doubt. You make claims like these but very unsubstantiated, if at all you know what that word means.
And if we don't have the capacity to help, then there will be no complains here that would have been resolved. But unfortunately again you only see what you want to see. So before you make a sweeping statement like that, may I remind you to be careful as those statements are uncalled for, if not out of place, not to mention blatantly unsubstantiated.
We have allowed all of you to express your sentiments provided it is within the rules. That is plain and simple. Because if we don't allow it, nobody will be allowed to post any complains at all, and probably, majority of your posts would not be even be here. So again, be careful of what you say.halfbloodprince wrote: let me quote the news about simon cowell quiting the American Idol... When he was asked who Fox should seek as his replacement, Cowell replied: "Just get somebody who knows what they're talking about."
So you know what you are talking about? Really? Yet many of your arguments are full of fallacious statements, not to mention unsubstantiated... Please practice what you preach. You have been flaming the Forum more often that I can see relevant posts. There is a limit to everything. halfbloodprince wrote: I think Bayantel Peeps should get a MOD that knows what they're talking about... one of the essence of customer service is LISTEN.. you do not barge in to what customer is saying.. do probe.. don't dismiss the issue just because so called WALA naman...
That has what the moderators has been doing whenever we encounter the problems of our forumers. We ask what is the situation. The problem with you is that you ONLY see what you want to see. Selective Listening is what you want to happen which should not even be. I made that point in the thread of mrplan1699 where you immediately jumped into conclusions. And by the way, as MOD Khupalkah pointed out, this is a forum. Not a customer service center. The customer service and technical service hotline is different from the Forum. Further, if we do not know what we are talking about, then how come we get things done... If you know so much then how come you are not able to help out that much your fellow Forumers? I am just asking. It is after all what I have seen in majority of your posts.halfbloodprince wrote: *p.s. kung wala rin masabi.. don't make accusation na iisa lang kami ni juncleofas..it just goes to show what kind of person you are... going to that level ... hayys...
Sir I am sorry but most of your posts don't add up to anything except complains. Some of which are flaming. So who do you think is more productive? And where do you think is your level? As far as I have seen, many of your posts are not that productive. In some threads, your fellow forumers even called your attention to the manner of your posts. I even get PMs complaining or commenting about your posting manner. So where do you think is your level? Please....halfbloodprince wrote: OT: I find it weird when Tunde (ended his office Oct 31) was replace by Fred (November 1)... dumating ang issues hehehehe just my thinking..
Are you from Bayan to be making this remark. This is none of your business. Corporations have their own strategies. People have their own reasons. Now if you don't mind, please know be more responsible with your remarks.
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My Fellow Forumers:
Thread development is very important in terms of knowing the real issue. It cannot be muddled by any means. Hence, during the first part of this thread, I made a directive that only posts pertaining to torrents alone and those that follow the rules will be allowed in this thread. We have been lenient since then, hoping that somehow people will follow and be more mindful, and that no posts will be deleted. As this thread develops, we are seeing that some are not following the rules. More often, some just come here to flame, or to even be Forum Trolls. In line with this, I am issuing the following directives applicable to this thread ONLY and will start from this point onwards. Please note that the following directives will be strictly enforced.
The following are the directives:
1) Please post your account number if you are having a problem with the torrent application ONLY.
- If you have not posted your account number in the past in this thread, please do so. Only those that have their account numbers posted will be considered in terms of their opinion. This is actually in the Bayan Forum Rules but it seems it is a very difficult thing to follow. This will allow the Bayan Moderators to check if there is a problem on the line itself not perceived by the Forumer on his end. It will also allow them to check what is going on with your account that may or not affect the torrent application.
2) Post deemed by any moderator not following the rules, or the directives in this thread, will be automatically deleted. 3) Sanctions to violators will also be automatically imposed after due process. The following has given or posted their account numbers in this thread so far:
1) blahh101 - 330222069 2) bluviper - 316666035 3) juncleofas - 103559081 4) shakespeare - 311381482
Unless I missed anyone who have posted their account numbers in this thread, these are the only ones whose account numbers I have seen to be posted here. I did not search the Forum for your individual account numbers as it is already in the rules that whenever you bring forth a DSL connection related concern, the account number should be posted. For some people they included this in their signature, which is a very good way to post one's account number. This should be second nature to everyone. It is only through your account numbers that we are able to validate that you guys are valid subscribers of BayanDSL.
So my question now is, where are the rest? I thought we have 30 forumers who are having a problem.
If your name is not on the list, please post your account number or include it in your signature. Otherwise your post will be deleted or your opinion will not be counted.
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@mikos
I had researched and double checked all my settings and everything is in order. Torrent download speeds up around 3am to 8am. This is on a very healthy torrent with a lot of seeders. More seeders than peers. Browsing speed is ok, direct server download is ok.
Believe me, the problem is with the torrent download speed alone. Seeding don't have any problem which im having a high upload speed.
If you can guide us what can we tell to the CSR customer support with regards with our problem it will be greatly appreciated. Since they always say that i have a connection so there seems to be no problem. 1. Will i ask them to check some setting in thier side? What should be checked? 2. Will/Can i ask them to check our line outside our house? 3. What should they check in our side? (lines, mainboard etc..)
I don't really have an idea what to tell them or request to them about this issue since again, they always say connection is good and there seems to be no problem.
Any inputs is greatly appreciated.
TIA
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bassman wrote:@mikos
I had researched and double checked all my settings and everything is in order. Torrent download speeds up around 3am to 8am. This is on a very healthy torrent with a lot of seeders. More seeders than peers. Browsing speed is ok, direct server download is ok.
Believe me, the problem is with the torrent download speed alone. Seeding don't have any problem which im having a high upload speed.
If you can guide us what can we tell to the CSR customer support with regards with our problem it will be greatly appreciated. Since they always say that i have a connection so there seems to be no problem. 1. Will i ask them to check some setting in thier side? What should be checked? 2. Will/Can i ask them to check our line outside our house? 3. What should they check in our side? (lines, mainboard etc..)
I don't really have an idea what to tell them or request to them about this issue since again, they always say connection is good and there seems to be no problem.
Any inputs is greatly appreciated.
TIA Bassman, I am doing my best already to coordinate this problem with the Bayan Moderators. I am sorry if it is taking this long. But rest assured that I am doing what I can already in my capacity to coordinate this problem with our BayanDSL moderators and Forumers. And I know that they also are doing their best. But as of now, they all have told me that there is no capping done on the side of Bayan. They are also looking into other things that can cause the problem. The difficulty in the problem is that not all customers are affected by this issue. This is the reason already why I am now asking that the account numbers to be posted (which should have been done a long time ago by everyone if only many of us were aware of the rules and followed it, but unfortunately only a few did so). One way to approach this problem is to check the accounts involved since there is a handful that is affected. Again, thank you for your patience.
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I'm back - and for sure it's a throttling problem with torrents. No measure of settings nor torrent sources is going to fix this if it is really a throttling problem. Although I haven't tried checking the data stream for spoofing or RST packets to limit download during peak hours, the problem persists only during peak hours and is not seen during off-peak hours. Encryption settings do not help increasing the speeds, though I still have to try a few tricks (SSH tunneling/VPN) and alternative torrent clients (Deluge/Halite) which people say can defeat this throttling behavior.
For the mods who may say "why are my friends and I not experiencing this problem?" - throttling may be applied to high-volume BT/P2P users specifically. I am one such user as I constantly download full linux/BSD distros (some go over 4DVDs) and approach close to 12-15GB per day (at most). If I do get to find enough to download that will saturate my connection 24/7, it is not far off that I could download 360-450GB a month. If there is certainly a provision to target high-bandwidth P2P users, I am one of those - and it is unfair since my privacy and security is compromised, and also since there are many legal bittorrent shares out there, with some commercial companies opting to choose the bittorrent delivery model as one of their primary distribution methods (Blizzard, Linux, BSD, etc).
For more info people can google for ComCast and SandVine and bandwidth throttling or torrent throttling. ComCast and other application/protocol-aware ISPs are limiting bandwidth worldwide and denying it straight (even when tests have been made to prove them otherwise). Bayan can also deny this, can't they?
...for now I'll try other clients with more advanced encryption methods or workarounds. Good luck to others who still have the same problem as mine.
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Same problem. Add me up.
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@Mikos Thank you for your kind reply. Please update us soon.
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331319759 << Thank you for those who are helping. :)
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post na din. sana magawan ng paraan. :D 335226011
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