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parang hindi ko madama eh... i have been a user of both ISP pero sa 3years ko na experience... BAYAN to GLOBE = lag meron kasi ako nababasa sa dito at sa ibang forum na OK na daw yung latency from BAYAN to GLOBE... kaso di ko talaga makita... BAYAN to a GLOBE IP (on the SAME AREA - around 200meters lang) Quote:Pinging 203.177.247.2xx with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=256ms TTL=245
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=279ms TTL=245
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=245
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=259ms TTL=245
Ping statistics for 203.177.247.2xx:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 256ms, Maximum = 279ms, Average = 263ms Quote:Tracing route to 203.177.247.2xx over a maximum of 30 hops
1 20 ms 21 ms 17 ms 121.97.74.48.BTI.NET.PH [121.97.74.48]
2 18 ms 15 ms 21 ms 121.97.74.48.BTI.NET.PH [121.97.74.48]
3 45 ms 41 ms 35 ms 121.96.0.138.BTI.NET.PH [121.96.0.138]
4 49 ms 35 ms 39 ms 121.96.0.138.BTI.NET.PH [121.96.0.138]
5 41 ms 33 ms 31 ms po2-ix-rsvt-border-1.bti.net.ph [202.78.97.215]
6 205 ms 203 ms 205 ms pldtus.com.any2ix.coresite.com [206.223.143.107]
7 203 ms 201 ms 203 ms 199.36.28.53
8 198 ms 195 ms 195 ms 199.36.28.50
9 194 ms 193 ms 191 ms 120.28.0.57
10 210 ms 205 ms 209 ms 120.28.0.25
11 210 ms 215 ms 211 ms 120.28.1.38
12 220 ms 211 ms 209 ms 222.127.228.58
13 272 ms 257 ms 257 ms 203.177.247.2xx
Trace complete. BAYAN to a GLOBE IP (on the SAME municipality - around 7kilometers) Quote:Pinging 222.127.226.1xx with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 222.127.226.1xx: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=245
Reply from 222.127.226.1xx: bytes=32 time=280ms TTL=245
Reply from 222.127.226.1xx: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=245
Reply from 222.127.226.1xx: bytes=32 time=260ms TTL=245
Ping statistics for 222.127.226.1xx:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 258ms, Maximum = 280ms, Average = 264ms Quote:Tracing route to 222.127.226.1xx over a maximum of 30 hops
1 17 ms 15 ms 17 ms 121.97.74.48.BTI.NET.PH [121.97.74.48]
2 19 ms 17 ms 15 ms 121.97.74.48.BTI.NET.PH [121.97.74.48]
3 39 ms 45 ms 37 ms 121.96.0.138.BTI.NET.PH [121.96.0.138]
4 44 ms 39 ms 35 ms 121.96.0.138.BTI.NET.PH [121.96.0.138]
5 34 ms 37 ms 33 ms po2-ix-rsvt-border-1.bti.net.ph [202.78.97.215]
6 200 ms 201 ms 199 ms pldtus.com.any2ix.coresite.com [206.223.143.107]
7 200 ms 199 ms 199 ms 199.36.28.53
8 196 ms * 202 ms 199.36.28.50
9 195 ms 193 ms 191 ms 120.28.0.57
10 210 ms 205 ms 207 ms 120.28.0.25
11 214 ms 209 ms 213 ms 120.28.1.38
12 210 ms 209 ms 213 ms 222.127.228.34
13 334 ms 265 ms 285 ms 222.127.226.1xx
Trace complete. eto BAYAN to BAYAN website Quote:Pinging www.bayan.com.ph [202.78.77.116] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120 Reply from 202.78.77.116: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=120 Ping statistics for 202.78.77.116: Packets: Sent = 17, Received = 17, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 36ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 42ms comments?
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Bago lang tumaas ulit ang ping ng bayantel-globe
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UP ko lang eto... mukhang napa ka OT na yung reply ko dun sa kabilang forum...
PERO as of the MOMENT... FEB. 28, 2010
sa test ko...
BAYAN to GLOBE connection = high LATENCYQuote:Pinging 203.177.247.2xx with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=373ms TTL=243
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=243
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=363ms TTL=243
Reply from 203.177.247.2xx: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=243
Ping statistics for 203.177.247.2xx:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 354ms, Maximum = 373ms, Average = 362ms
Tracing route to 203.177.247.2xx over a maximum of 30 hops
1 90 ms 45 ms 17 ms 121.97.74.48.bti.net.ph [121.97.74.48]
2 26 ms 25 ms 19 ms 121.97.74.48.bti.net.ph [121.97.74.48]
3 68 ms 45 ms 43 ms 121.96.0.138.BTI.NET.PH [121.96.0.138]
4 40 ms 31 ms 65 ms 121.96.0.138.BTI.NET.PH [121.96.0.138]
5 48 ms 39 ms 37 ms ge-6-2-rsvt-bb-gw-1.bti.net.ph [202.78.97.198]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 307 ms 257 ms 261 ms 218.189.5.36
10 304 ms 277 ms 295 ms 218.188.104.150
11 288 ms 279 ms 289 ms 120.28.0.49
12 302 ms 303 ms 297 ms 120.28.0.2
13 324 ms 313 ms 317 ms 120.28.0.25
14 320 ms 313 ms 315 ms 120.28.0.206
15 327 ms 407 ms 333 ms 222.127.228.34
16 358 ms 377 ms 363 ms 203.177.247.2xx
using a bayan plan 899 to a GLOBE static business plan 2mb (203.177.247.2xx)
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hahahahaa!!!
totoo yan sa province na location mo my interconnection kami ng PSTN...
hindi sa DATA.. ahihihih...
 
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khupalkah wrote:hahahahaa!!!
totoo yan sa province na location mo my interconnection kami ng PSTN...
hindi sa DATA.. ahihihih... so there was really no INTERCONNECTION (ISP - data) to begin with???
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sayang kala ko pa naman na OK na yung connection BAYAN to GLOBE... ok sana para medyo lumaki rin population ng pwede mag interconnect sa GARENA...
kung meron lang PLDT sarap sana mag laro sa PH dota rooms sa GARENA dami rooms at madaming tao...
oh well... mag tyaga nalang yung players ko sa BAYANTEL rooms...
wala rin silbe... di rin nyu kasi ma gets yung advantages ng interconnections...
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i'm also a garena user.. adik baga sa DOTA.. but hindi ko siya na-eexperience using bayan DSL.. server 3 ako nag-lolog-in mataas ang ping sa akin ng PLDT but minsan mababa din... no lags...
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Ok na ulit ang ping ng bayantel sa globe as of March 3, 2010. Nag add ng bandwidth ang Pldt kaya tingin ko tumulong muna ang bayantel sa pldt kaya tumaas ang ping sa globe. Wala pong delay sa Garena (dota) kahit globe-bayantel or vice versa provided na at least 1mbps ang host at walang download lahat ng players including the host. Delay masyado kahit ako ang host (2mbps with landline @ 1295) kung players sa net cafe (bayantel) namin ang kalaro kapag marami ang chatters at naka open na youtube. Compatible lang ang bayantel at globe kung walang download (youtube, torrent, etc) at upload (webcam, email, etc) lahat ng kasama sa laro including the host Globe to Bayantel >>>  Note: Globe po ako na pumasok sa Bayantel Room sa Garena 
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diba sa DULAG, LEYTE yung shop mo na naka bayan sir...
san location naman yung GLOBE na connection mo???
sir CAN you do a PING and TRACEROUTE test from your GLOBE to your SHOPS BAYAN ip???
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Cebu ang location ng globe. Hindi pwedeng ma ping ang aming shop dahil bawal sa router. Pwede lang ma ping kung sa garena Based rin sa experience ko tama ang ping sa garena. Kapag umabot sa 150ms ang ping hindi na maganda ang laro
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i think yung globe dyan sa CEBU is naka TAP sa BAYAN DATA network or the other way around...
kasi dito sa BAYBAY LEYTE... di ko talaga makita/madama yung GLOBE = BAYAN inter-connectivity...
eto SS ko...
yung shop ko pala is using BAYAN Netbasic 1MB (exclusive gaming) naka proxy po sa ibang ISP yung browsers ko...
BAYAN room4
edit ko lang... napuno na trashtalk yung SS ko... hehehe.. sorry...
GLOBE room1
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Mataas talaga ang ping kapag gagamitin sa shop ang 1mbps. Nag test ako na walang ibang naka open except sa garena 79 - 109ms ang ping ng players namin sa net cafe. Playable na po iyan. Tumataas lang ang ping kapag 10pm na dahil marami na ang chatters
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oisilener1982 wrote:Mataas talaga ang ping kapag gagamitin sa shop ang 1mbps. Nag test ako na walang ibang naka open except sa garena i don't think max speed ng plan will affect the latency sir... IMOHO lang...
also yung pinakita mong picture with ping values not accurate... kasi na tunnel mo na yun sir...
nagbasa kasi ako sa GARENA... dun sa guide... yung TUNNEL daw is used para makakita mo yung host inside WC3 or makita ng ang hinohost mo game sa WC3 (if ikaw yung HOST)...
TUNNEL daw is the INDIRECT connection from one player to the other THROUGH garena servers...
pero sa GAME na mismo di raw yung indirect connection ang ginagamit yung TRUE ping values daw yung basehan... so wala sible yung TUNNEL if mataas na talaga yung latency between two players...
yung GLOBE room ko untunneled PINGS yung naka display... and i click the PING tab... so yung pinakamababang pings ang nasa SS ko...
pakita mo nga saken sir yung PINGS mo sa BAYANTEL room without tunneling them... and if OK lang paki lakihan mo narin yung resolution para marami makitang ping...
thanks...
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Bayantel Dota Room 2 as of March 4, 2010 7:20pm >>>> Globe to Bayantel Marami ang nagsasabi na walang effect ang bandwidth sa Latency pero based sa experience ko mayroon. Nagsimula kami noon sa 1mbps ng bayantel then ginamit namin sa net cafe. Kapag umabot nalang sa 500kbps ang speed sa "speed.skyinet.net" may delay na ang ibang players na hindi bayantel Mas madali rin tumaas ang ping kapag mababa ang bandwidth 
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and i think wala talagang interconnection ng BAYAN at GLOBE...
most especially dito sa LEYTE... as what the MOD "khupalkah" said...
Quote:totoo yan sa province na location mo my interconnection kami ng PSTN...
hindi sa DATA..
di ko lang sure yung sayu sir... nasa CEBU kasi yung GLOBE mo... baka yung GLOBE dyan sa CEBU (or baka LAHAT ng GLOBE) is OK sa BAYANTEL rooms...
also di ko pa na try yung GLOBE ko dito...
MAYBE GLOBE is OK on BAYANTEL rooms pero not the otherway around... just a thought... ^_^addtional sir...
how about yung SHOP mo na naka BAYAN sir??? baka meron kang tao dun na pwede mong ma contact... para makita ko yung GARENA niya inside a GLOBE room...
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eto sa bahay ko...
ako lang isa gumagamit... walang DL
Bayan Residential Plan 899 (inside GLOBE room 5)
prang bayan din yata yung dalawang users na green yung pings...
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Mahirap ata dahil resticted ang mga pc sa aming shop. May prob sa screenshot dahil hindi allowed ang print screen / snipping tool wala rin account sa photobucket ang mga players namin Eto naman ang ping sa Globe Dota Room 1 as of March 4, 2010 7:35pm 
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oisilener1982 wrote:Mahirap ata dahil resticted ang mga pc aming shop. May prob sa screenshot dahil hindi allowed ang print screen / snipping tool wala rin account sa photobucket ang mga players namin Eto naman ang ping sa Globe Dota Room 1 as of March 4, 2010 7:35pm
hmmm... intriguing...
ano kaya masasabi ng mga MODS dito...
sa nakikita ko lang...
IMO... parang LUGI yata ako na naka BAYAN...
kasi ako na naka BAYANTEL... can only PLAY on BAYANTEL rooms...
while you (oisilener1982) na naka GLOBE... can play on any GLOBE or BAYANTEL rooms...
LUGI ako sa BAYANTEL ko...
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May tweak rin para sa Lower Latency. Kailangan mo lang mag experiment kung ano ang best modulation. Noon sa 1mbps ko sa globe g.lite ang best modulation. Sa 2mbps ko naman na connection g.dmt ang best modulation. Take note: ADSL+ and default modulation Eto ang link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmk6aEgt2gc@offtopic: eto naman ang tournament namin sa Leyte last dec 30-31, 2009 sa crossfire and dota http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVBgA9nTR40
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nagawa ko na po yun... lahat ng modulation na try ko na...
halos walang pinagkaiba sa latency sir... as far as i can see...
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