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Kung wala, may local Telco dito, namely INTELCO, nagaalok sila sa akin ng BusinessDSL na BayanTel daw, plan 2.5mbps @ 5,000 pesos per month.
Sabi nila BayanTel daw 'yon at padadaanin sa linya nila, pero BayanTel pa rin daw makukuha ko at sa kanila na rin ako magbabayad.
I would like to know if they are an authorized re-provider of this service, saka bakit masyado yatang mahal?
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netguides wrote:Kung wala, may local Telco dito, namely INTELCO, nagaalok sila sa akin ng BusinessDSL na BayanTel daw, plan 2.5mbps @ 5,000 pesos per month.
Sabi nila BayanTel daw 'yon at padadaanin sa linya nila, pero BayanTel pa rin daw makukuha ko at sa kanila na rin ako magbabayad.
I would like to know if they are an authorized re-provider of this service, saka bakit masyado yatang mahal?
TIA Yes Sir. Bayantel po ang provider ni INTELCO, yung price matrix nila is different from price matrix of Bayan.
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notroublefound wrote:netguides wrote:Kung wala, may local Telco dito, namely INTELCO, nagaalok sila sa akin ng BusinessDSL na BayanTel daw, plan 2.5mbps @ 5,000 pesos per month.
Sabi nila BayanTel daw 'yon at padadaanin sa linya nila, pero BayanTel pa rin daw makukuha ko at sa kanila na rin ako magbabayad.
I would like to know if they are an authorized re-provider of this service, saka bakit masyado yatang mahal?
TIA Yes Sir. Bayantel po ang provider ni INTELCO, yung price matrix nila is different from price matrix of Bayan. Thanks for the prompt reply. Atleast now I know that they are an authorized distributor of this service.
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Paki-linaw naman ho ito, sabi ng staff ng intelco bayantel daw nagbigay sa kanila ng pricelist na yan... 
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It is a good thing you changed the way you posted this. I deleted your previous post as that has legal bearings especially with the manner you posted your inquiry.
We will let the other moderators respond to this since they are the ones who handle inquiries like these.
Just to reiterate the post of Mod NTF, INTELCO's pricing is different from BayanDSL. Since they are a re-provider, you cannot expect them to provide the same price packaging as that of BayanDSL even if they are using the services of BayanDSL to provide the net service to them.
You also have to understand that whatever pricing that BayanDSL provided them to use their line, that is just between BayanDSL and Intelco. The publicly declared pricing scheme declared in the area covered by Intelco will still be inherent on INTELCO and in now way can BayanDSL interfere with it or even make changes to it. We also have to understand that there are legal bearings on such things and in no way can the Forum make comments about it since Intelco is a re-provider of the services of BayanDSL.
This is not the opinion of BayanDSL though but as a moderator, I am just clarifying the issues involved here. We will have to wait for the other moderators to comment on such a sensitive issue.
The best people to ask why their pricing scheme is like this will be the very people from INTELCO since they are the authorized provider in your area.netguides wrote:Paki-linaw naman ho ito, sabi ng staff ng intelco bayantel daw nagbigay sa kanila ng pricelist na yan...
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Please lang MATINONG TANONG LANG SANA ANG ITANONG instead of NONSENSE ONES. The Forum is NOT an Online Technical Support.
For your DSL/Phone concerns please call the hot lines FIRST before posting it in the Forum.
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Magulo 'yung price, may typo sila, tapos ung 512kbps at 768kbps parang mali mas mura ung mas mabilis..
anyway kaya ko lng naman dinala dito sabi nga ng staff nila bayan daw nagbigay sa kanila ng price na yan, ewan ko baka wala lang syang masabi, kahit ano kasing kulit ko sa kanila hndi nila ako masagot pati tech nila hndi raw alam, hndi lang ako makapag-decide ang gulo kasi ng price at hndi nila malinaw...
wala na ba talagang way para rumekta ako sa bayan kahit may local provider na sila d2???
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paki-set aside muna ung mga legal terms,
pls dont forget the internet rule, freedom of speech....
pero salamat din sa concern,
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If that is the case na magulo yung pricing scheme nila based on how you understand it, then the only people who will be in a better position to assist you will be the people from INTELCO since they are the ones who came up with the pricing scheme. If the front liners of INTELCO cannot provide an answer to your satisfaction, then perhaps escalating it to a supervisor will be able to assist you. Again, it will be up to your judgement if you will need a supervisor since you are the ones dealing with them. Just like in any company you deal with in any country, if the front liners cannot provide you the assistance you need, then you go up the corporate ladder and deal with the next authority.
Hindi din ito ma-clarify ng BayanDSL kasi hindi sila ang gumawa ng packaging na yan. Sakop ng INTELCO yung area mo so sila lang ang pwedeng sumagot sa mga tanong mo regarding their pricing scheme.
As for directly connecting with BayanDSL, your area is not covered by BayanDSL. As MOD NTF pointed out, INTELCO ang may jurisdiction diyan so sila ang authorized mag provide ng DSL sa area mo, so you will have to connect through them. Ang mangyayari lang is like this, the lines and facilities that will be used will that of INTELCO, but when it comes to the internet, sa facilities ng BayanDSL sila kokonek para magka internet kayo diyan. This is a common strategy for many telcomms in the provinces that has the existing facility for telecomms but does not have the infrastructure yet for the internet service. So in this case, you will still have to connect to INTELCO if you want to get a hold of the connection provided by BayanDSL since they are the authorized re-provider in your area.netguides wrote:Magulo 'yung price, may typo sila, tapos ung 512kbps at 768kbps parang mali mas mura ung mas mabilis..
anyway kaya ko lng naman dinala dito sabi nga ng staff nila bayan daw nagbigay sa kanila ng price na yan, ewan ko baka wala lang syang masabi, kahit ano kasing kulit ko sa kanila hndi nila ako masagot pati tech nila hndi raw alam, hndi lang ako makapag-decide ang gulo kasi ng price at hndi nila malinaw...
wala na ba talagang way para rumekta ako sa bayan kahit may local provider na sila d2???
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I understand. On the contrary, I cannot do as you requested. There is freedom of speech on the net. However, the laws and legal parlance where the people involved in the net (like in our case) will still prevail. This is a public forum and thus everything we post here do have legal bearings. This is the reason why we always say, there is freedom but with freedom there comes also a very big responsibility. Thus, I will still have to make sure that everything posted here is in accordance with the law. That cannot be ignored.
Hindi lang naman po kasi kayo sir ang tatamaan. The moderators are part and parcel responsible for what is posted here. That is why we are strict on these things. I hope you understand.
Thank you.netguides wrote:paki-set aside muna ung mga legal terms,
pls dont forget the internet rule, freedom of speech....
pero salamat din sa concern,
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Please lang MATINONG TANONG LANG SANA ANG ITANONG instead of NONSENSE ONES. The Forum is NOT an Online Technical Support.
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This includes requests for port resets, DSL connection footprints (ATT and SNRs), requests for technicians and repairs.
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Mikos wrote:If that is the case na magulo yung pricing scheme nila based on how you understand it, then the only people who will be in a better position to assist you will be the people from INTELCO since they are the ones who came up with the pricing scheme. If the front liners of INTELCO cannot provide an answer to your satisfaction, then perhaps escalating it to a supervisor will be able to assist you. Again, it will be up to your judgement if you will need a supervisor since you are the ones dealing with them. Just like in any company you deal with in any country, if the front liners cannot provide you the assistance you need, then you go up the corporate ladder and deal with the next authority.
Hindi din ito ma-clarify ng BayanDSL kasi hindi sila ang gumawa ng packaging na yan. Sakop ng INTELCO yung area mo so sila lang ang pwedeng sumagot sa mga tanong mo regarding their pricing scheme.
As for directly connecting with BayanDSL, your area is not covered by BayanDSL. As MOD NTF pointed out, INTELCO ang may jurisdiction diyan so sila ang authorized mag provide ng DSL sa area mo, so you will have to connect through them. Ang mangyayari lang is like this, the lines and facilities that will be used will that of INTELCO, but when it comes to the internet, sa facilities ng BayanDSL sila kokonek para magka internet kayo diyan. This is a common strategy for many telcomms in the provinces that has the existing facility for telecomms but does not have the infrastructure yet for the internet service. So in this case, you will still have to connect to INTELCO if you want to get a hold of the connection provided by BayanDSL since they are the authorized re-provider in your area.netguides wrote:Magulo 'yung price, may typo sila, tapos ung 512kbps at 768kbps parang mali mas mura ung mas mabilis..
anyway kaya ko lng naman dinala dito sabi nga ng staff nila bayan daw nagbigay sa kanila ng price na yan, ewan ko baka wala lang syang masabi, kahit ano kasing kulit ko sa kanila hndi nila ako masagot pati tech nila hndi raw alam, hndi lang ako makapag-decide ang gulo kasi ng price at hndi nila malinaw...
wala na ba talagang way para rumekta ako sa bayan kahit may local provider na sila d2??? Salamat.
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Mikos wrote:I understand. On the contrary, I cannot do as you requested. There is freedom of speech on the net. However, the laws and legal parlance where the people involved in the net (like in our case) will still prevail. This is a public forum and thus everything we post here do have legal bearings. This is the reason why we always say, there is freedom but with freedom there comes also a very big responsibility. Thus, I will still have to make sure that everything posted here is in accordance with the law. That cannot be ignored.
Hindi lang naman po kasi kayo sir ang tatamaan. The moderators are part and parcel responsible for what is posted here. That is why we are strict on these things. I hope you understand.
Thank you.netguides wrote:paki-set aside muna ung mga legal terms,
pls dont forget the internet rule, freedom of speech....
pero salamat din sa concern, I understand, thank you.
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Also thanks for saving me my freedom and money for entering such law suits...
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kagagaling lng dito ng field person ng intelco, pinakita nya sa akin ung email ko sa bayantel, finorward lng din ng bayantel sa kanila...nagsurvey sya at ok daw area ko...
plano kong kunin ung net starter business nila na 1mbps for 1,678.88 per month....2k installation fee....wala pa nga palang landline ung 1,678...add yata ako ng 350 per mo. para sa landline bali 2k mahigit na rin per mo....
may SOD din kaya ito?
kasi sa bayantel din naman ito eh...padadaanin lng sa facility ng intelco..
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netguides wrote:kagagaling lng dito ng field person ng intelco, pinakita nya sa akin ung email ko sa bayantel, finorward lng din ng bayantel sa kanila...nagsurvey sya at ok daw area ko...
plano kong kunin ung net starter business nila na 1mbps for 1,678.88 per month....2k installation fee....wala pa nga palang landline ung 1,678...add yata ako ng 350 per mo. para sa landline bali 2k mahigit na rin per mo....
may SOD din kaya ito?
kasi sa bayantel din naman ito eh...padadaanin lng sa facility ng intelco.. Wala pong SOD ang mga business package, yung mga resi package lng po ang may SOD (768kbps - 2mbps). BTW yung Net Starter po ay pwedeng static IP or dynamic IP (PPPOE).
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notroublefound wrote:netguides wrote:kagagaling lng dito ng field person ng intelco, pinakita nya sa akin ung email ko sa bayantel, finorward lng din ng bayantel sa kanila...nagsurvey sya at ok daw area ko...
plano kong kunin ung net starter business nila na 1mbps for 1,678.88 per month....2k installation fee....wala pa nga palang landline ung 1,678...add yata ako ng 350 per mo. para sa landline bali 2k mahigit na rin per mo....
may SOD din kaya ito?
kasi sa bayantel din naman ito eh...padadaanin lng sa facility ng intelco.. Wala pong SOD ang mga business package, yung mga resi package lng po ang may SOD (768kbps - 2mbps). BTW yung Net Starter po ay pwedeng static IP or dynamic IP (PPPOE). ganun ho ba, salamat ho sa info....ibig sabihin kaya walang SOD ang mga business plan kasi may mataas na silang CIR??? regarding po sa static.... makikita po natin dito.... dalawa ung 1mbps, ung netstarter 1.7k at ung netbasic ay 3.6k hndi po nasagot ng frontliner kung bkit parehas ng speed pero mas mahal ung isa ng sobra, pinakausap ako sa tech according daw sa tech static ip daw ung isa..... pwede ho ba akong mag-static ip sa netstarter 1mbps 1.7k????
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netguides wrote:notroublefound wrote:netguides wrote:kagagaling lng dito ng field person ng intelco, pinakita nya sa akin ung email ko sa bayantel, finorward lng din ng bayantel sa kanila...nagsurvey sya at ok daw area ko...
plano kong kunin ung net starter business nila na 1mbps for 1,678.88 per month....2k installation fee....wala pa nga palang landline ung 1,678...add yata ako ng 350 per mo. para sa landline bali 2k mahigit na rin per mo....
may SOD din kaya ito?
kasi sa bayantel din naman ito eh...padadaanin lng sa facility ng intelco.. Wala pong SOD ang mga business package, yung mga resi package lng po ang may SOD (768kbps - 2mbps). BTW yung Net Starter po ay pwedeng static IP or dynamic IP (PPPOE). ganun ho ba, salamat ho sa info....ibig sabihin kaya walang SOD ang mga business plan kasi may mataas na silang CIR??? regarding po sa static.... makikita po natin dito.... dalawa ung 1mbps, ung netstarter 1.7k at ung netbasic ay 3.6k hndi po nasagot ng frontliner kung bkit parehas ng speed pero mas mahal ung isa ng sobra, pinakausap ako sa tech according daw sa tech static ip daw ung isa..... pwede ho ba akong mag-static ip sa netstarter 1mbps 1.7k???? As far as I know we already stop selling Net Basic and Net Value. Yung Net Starter dynamic sya (PPPOE) but you can request for 1 Static IP upon activation.
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nakabitan na ko ngayon ngayon lng...  may problema yata ang speedtest.net, kala ko sa globe lng, nagclear na ko ng cache ganun pa rin... natabunan ung mga ibang servers sa metromanila....natabunan ng isang malaking star kaya di ma click ung pyramid...3 server lng ang makikita mo, pasig, laspinas, at mandaluyong.... di ko tuloy magamit ung favorite ko which is from quezon city ung sa bayan...hehe... 1,700 per month just for 1mbps...hayyz....
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Yung mga hindi ma-access ang QC Server kingly use this link.http://quezoncity.speedtest.net
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Thanks pero ganun pa rin result ko...parang naka-cap sa 768kbps?  pero according sa modem ko 1156kbps ako....
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